From: Al Aab
Sent: 04 October 1996 08:52
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4 october 1996 SEDERS NEWSLETTER #10 al aab
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Never before has the seders moderator included an application of a new
seder in a seders newsletter. Hope Mr David Briars does not object.
Especially the seders newsletters will be archived @the seders Web site.
If he does object, we will oblige him (remove his application from the
seders Web site).
One reason for said exception is that, though seders had the privilige &
honor of including a dentist, several system administrators, gee-wiz sed
hackers, and a software consultant who has governments among his clientèle,
seders never had a legal practioner before.
The second reason is that Mr David Briars has submitted one of the longest
self-intros.
Thirdly, Mr David Briars has arisen some important, intelligent issues
& questions :-
SED INTERFACE - VISUALIZATION
Such a visual interface of the highly unfriendly sed (& other regular-
expression software) would be someting to behold - not to mention
friendly. Let sed et al sit under a GUi hood, hiding their frowning faces.
interesting idea that befits the latter years of the twentieth century.
The third reason, rather personal to the seders moderator, is:
@last, the moderator has found a kindred spirit, a user of a version of sed
of sed that is friendlier & extended - compared to standard UNIX sed.
the SED15 for DOS.
The seders web will include a link to SED15 and to another DOS sed, punningly
called U-SEDIT, as well as a hacked version of SED15, which gives sed a modicum
of tracing. The only sed debugger the seders moderator ever heard of was
mentioned by an ex-seder, Mr Brian Hiles.
Even if a seder does not care for dos, the moderator hails the readable docs
that come with SED15, & especially with U-SEDIT.
For now, here are the URL's for SED15 & U-SEDIT zipped files. Thrown in is the
URL of UI ARCHIVE search engine for MS shareware.
UI Archive Search
http://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/SearchEngines/bin/htmlidx.cgi
UI Archive HTML IDX search results:
Search String: sed15_______________ Case Sensitive Search Again
Directory: [1]/pub/systems/pc/simtelnet/msdos/txtutl/
Filename Type Length Date Description
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[2]sed15.zip B 62082 910930 Unix-compatible streaming editor v1.5 TC src
[3]sed15x.zip B 20300 910930 Unix-compatible streaming editor v1.5 EXE/docs
Search String: u-sedit_____________ ( ) Case Sensitive Search Again
Directory: [1]/pub/systems/pc/garbo/editor/
Filename Type Length Date Description
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[2]u-sedit2.zip B 76526 960429 SED v2.0; unixish stream line editor for DOS
Seders thank the UI Archive & search engine.
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On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, David Briars wrote:
> Hello Al,
>
> Yes, please put me on the sed list. I agree to the terms below.
>
> By way of self introduction, I run a listserve called Mclibel, and am
> engaged in trying to get Vermont's laws into the hands of the public in a
> form they can use and search. Right now this involves doing a job with a
> word processor that sed could do much more easily (for anyone who can figure
> out regular expressions and sed). Unfortunately I am not among this august
> group, and seek exposure to sedisms and sed lore. Lately as I grind though
> this text conversion I dream of a visual basic tool of some kind that
> verbosifies sed and regular expressions. Since the kind of work I want to do
> is reducible to a few "simple" jobs this would be especially useful to
> people who are away from sed for long periods, but this too is a l_o_n_g
> term project (sigh).
>
> Can you direct me to a DOS version of sed on the net somewhere which
> contains a good .Doc file. I've searched BBS's and CD-ROMs and came up with
> one fairly cryptic version made in 1987.
>
> Best Regards,
> David Briars
>
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Please enroll me as a member of seders.
> >i gree to the following seders rules :-
> >
> >1- i am including a self-introduction, especially re string processing,
> >like sed, awk, perl, snobol, icon, etc.
> >
> >2- the seders moderator, hereby, may reflect my email - edited or not -
> >to the seders list and/or any internet newsgroup the moderator considers
> >related to string processing, e.g. comp.editors. i also understand that
> >i can prevent that posting by stating in any of my email messages that
> >it should not be reflected.
> >
> >3- within my capacity, i will participate in the seders discussion.
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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al aab, seders moderator sed u soon
it is not zat we do not see the s o l u t i o n
it is zat we do not sed theproblem
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